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[PEN-L:28710] Expertise
Yoshie, you should get back to work.
1) The straw men: Democray in this context does not mean that everybody
votes on the details of "how you run your shop". It does mean (and
Schweickart agrees) that everybody in your shop gets a vote. That is the
in a hospital, not only doctors, but nurses, Xray techs, receptionists,
floor sweepers, nutritionists, cooks all get an equal say in running the
place - whether via direct democracy, the election of a council, or the
choice of a manager answerable to an elected council. And democracy also
demands that priorities in terms of how capital is allocated also are set
democratically.
As you know I support worker self-management. I am not sure that that has to
mean that the cleaning staff gets an equal say with regard to the way the
surgeons do their work, that's the same problem as the problem of the demos
that I mentioned. I assume that self-managed enterprises can work that sort
of thing out in an appropriate manner.
2) Secondly, for the most part expertise does not mean a right of decision
making, but a right to advise. For example if I go to my doctor and she
recommends an operation, she has no right to order me to have that
operation, I can refuse, and if the doctor knows what she is doing suffer
or die as a result. But the point is that choice is mine; the doctor's
expertise gives her only a right to advise, not to order. As lawyer, you
should be all to well aware that the same is true for lawyers.
Depends. For doctorss and lawyers that is true. But I was not talking about
the right of experts to make decisions, but to give their advice, and act on
it if it accepted--that is, to to their jobs--without unhelpful intrusion by
the ignorant. There are experts whose job it is to make decisions, not give
advice, as well. Teachers come to mind as an instance, as well as all sorts
of govt officials--judges are another. That's why we call them judghes and
let the end their opinions with the words, Enter Order.
jks
jks
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- Thread context:
- [PEN-L:28721] Re: Expertise,
Carl Remick Sun 28 Jul 2002, 22:43 GMT
- [PEN-L:28716] [Fwd: Corporate Phantoms],
Carrol Cox Sun 28 Jul 2002, 19:20 GMT
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Yoshie Furuhashi Sun 28 Jul 2002, 17:36 GMT
- [PEN-L:28712] Re: Expertise,
Devine, James Sun 28 Jul 2002, 17:20 GMT
- [PEN-L:28710] Expertise,
Justin Schwartz Sun 28 Jul 2002, 16:17 GMT
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Justin Schwartz Sun 28 Jul 2002, 16:02 GMT
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Seth Sandronsky Sun 28 Jul 2002, 14:30 GMT
- [PEN-L:28705] Post9/11 'Screw-up of economy"?,
Hari Kumar Sun 28 Jul 2002, 13:58 GMT
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