RE: ARgument for socialism

["Devine, James" <jdevine@xxxxxxx>]

Justin writes:>Didn't someone say "socialism or barbarism" and didn't
someone else say, "the revolutionary transformation of society or the common
ruin of the contending classes"?<

of course, it was Luxemburg who used the former phrase and Marx & Engels who
used the latter to refer to the result of a revolution.

of course, there are alternatives, such as the establishment of socialist
barbarism (or barbaric socialism), which might be seen as a revolutionary
transformation based on the common ruin of the contending classes, so that a
new class rises that controls the state at the expense of the workers.

Ignoring that, there's Engels' phrase that anti-semitism is the "socialism
of fools." It can be generalized: ObL, Hamas, and Zionism might also been
seen as versions of the socialism of fools, efforts to gain the benefits of
collectivism by linking them to ethnic nationalism and/or religious
obscurantism...
JD