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Charles:> Revolutions are like plate tectonic shifts in geology. They
> occur rarely , but their potential and tension are constant
> even through the normal times of  small earthquakes ( That's
> dialectics)

Jim D.:yes, but your geology is wrong: tectonic shifts happen all the time, while
it's earthquakes that are rare (or at least big ones).

^^^^^^^

CB: The "big one" you refer to would correspond to the "revolution" in my analogy.  It is rare. The more frequent small earthquakes would express the fundamental tension that is there for a long time, but does not resolve itself by the small ones , but only when there is a "big one".   The "all the time" you refer to are the smaller earthquakes. The full contradiction of a given fault does _not_ express itself all the time. Only in the rare "big one".  The whole theory of plate tectonics is an example of a dialectical development in a scientific theory after Engels and others had articulated how dialectics is expressed in science. I recall that at the time I learned the theory of plate tectonics, it overthrew a competing theory that did not posit tensions and contradictions leading up to "big ones".




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