RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: postmodernism?

[Sabri Oncu <soncu@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

As I have to leave to pick up my son from his school in a few minutes, let
me stick to 1. and 2. below and say this:

I agree wholeheartedly and thank you for the clarification.

Best,
Sabri

P.S: Still a Marxist, though.

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Sabri, sorry, its late in a day of too many classes with students who do not
want to know these things, so i may be a bit tired, hence less critically
coherent.

what I mean is: 1. most things are usually complex & systems always are
such. 2. most modernist thought desires simplicity, packaging complexity in
black boxes, easily labeled hence consumed whole and uncritically. 3.
chomsky talks about acceptable limits to dissent beyond which nothing
registers, even he is never invited to mainstream talknews infopropaganda
shows that mascarade as experts commenting on news. 4. whether heraclitis'
"all things are in motion at all times," or marx's "matter & emergy
undergoing constant dialectical transformations," everything is change, no
matter how desperately a modernist mentality wants to hold on to fixed
objects.

hopefully clearer, but welcome others to reinterpret & clarify those ideas.

jb