Re: various & sundry

[ALI KADRI <akadri_00@xxxxxxxxx>]

ON POINT 2, the proverb goes "every comaprison is
lame"
class formation in the periphery is quite different.
although latin america may be different because of its
early independence and a genuine rise of a national
burgeoisie, this in the M east and africa did not
happen. the buzz word of french sociologist is
disarticulation, that is to say, the working class
rejects any class ties and aodpts tribe ties because
the crisis is very very severe.

--- jdevine@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> I'm having e-mail problems, so I send at least three
> pen-l messages
> off that were lost in cyberspace, all in response to
> different
> threads that came off the cloth of "Doug tells the
> truth" (or
> whatever it was called).
>
> 1. I commented on JR's bit about how not being
> exploited by capitalism
> is worse than actually being exploited. That only
> applies if
> capitalism has taken complete charge of a society.
> If there are
> other modes of production, it may not be true (it
> depends on
> the nature of the alternative).
>
> 2. I commented on the similarity of al Qaida and
> classical European
> (Hitler or Mussolini-type) fascism. The former
> involves obscurantist
> religion, while the latter involves obscurantist
> nationalism.
> More importantly, fascism involved cross-class
> coalitions, with
> white collar "middle class" workers being the main
> constituency,
> followed by the lumpenproletariat and financed by
> scared richies
> (just as the Saudi elite helped finance ObL).
>
> 3. I commented on how Mark Jones' attack on Doug
> Henwood was
> one (perhaps small) reason why the left stays so
> small, because
> people who are "on the edge" of the left are
> repulsed by the
> "either you toe the party line that I declare or
> you're Renegade
> Kautsky -- or worse."
>
> Jim Devine
>
>
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