Re: Re: RE: Re: carrying capacity in California

[Tim Bousquet <chicoexaminer@xxxxxxxxx>]

Doesn't it matter what's being grown? We have a lot of
orchard crops around here-- walnuts and almonds,
primarily-- and rice in the south. Truck farming used
to be the norm, with row crops going to market in
Chico, which I guess more or less is the picture of
sustainability. But with the twentieth century almost
all the land went to export crops, with most of the
product going back east, or wherever. Maybe you could
live on rice, but I don't see how anyone could live on
almonds for any length of time. Come to think of it, I
know of only one butcher shop where you can get
locally growned beef; everything else is sent
elsewhere. I can't seem to open the attachment showing
alleged carrying capacity, but I imagine it shows
Butte County meeting whatever the standard is. But in
reality, I bet less than 1% of the food that's
consumed here comes from here.

tim

--- Stephen E Philion <philion@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Actually, my reading of Nathan's remarks are that he
> is countering your
> arguments, not Doug's.
>
> Steve
>
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2001, Mark Jones wrote:
>
> > Doug Henwood wrote:
> > >
> > > Hmm, 27 million excess Californians. LA's
> population should be below
> > > 20,000. Where are all these people to go?
> > >
> > > Thanks for putting some numbers on the
> Malthusian sentiments.
> > >
> >
> > This is baiting, not debating. Why not address the
> issue? Do you disagree
> > about how many cultivable acres there are in
> California? About the size of
> > the population?
> >
> > Nathan Newman just said:
> >
> > >>What is says is that California under its
> methodology could not feed
> > itself
> > on its own resources.  Aside from whatever
> analyses might be made against
> > that point, even if true, so what?   Plenty of
> states in the US's middle
> > west export far more food than they consume and
> there are many states that
> > also export to California in trade for other
> goods.<<
> >
> > Do you agree with this?
> >
> > Mark Jones
> >
> >
>


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