Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cuban Genetic Engineering (was Jesse Lemisch)

["Ken Hanly" <khanly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with Rob. I don't know why agriculture is anti-human unless you
think we were all hunters and gatherers by nature. If you mean that toilets
are human artifacts and so scrubbing them is human then we deserve some
explanation as to why that would make the labor superior. And what about
cleaning out latrines or manning "honey wagons" to clean out earlier
"toilets".
    If I apply Mill's doctrine about superiority of pleasures I count myself
equally capable of experiencing the relative "pleasure" of scrubbing toilets
and growing a garden and would testify to the greater pleasure or at least
lesser pain associated with the latter.


Cheers, Ken Hardy aka Tom...


----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Schaap <bantam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 9:01 PM
>Subject: [PEN-L:14220] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cuban Genetic Engineering (was
Jesse Lemisch)


> > And it is around industry, play, and moving about, not
> > being stuck like a slug on one plot of land, that human life ought to
> > be organized. Agriculture by its nature is anti-human, and hence in a
> > decent society would be radically sub-divided and spread out over the
> > entire population, like KP in the military. Scrubbing toilets is far
> > more human labor than tilling the soil.
>
> Think you're overdoing it a bit here, Carrol.  What's so nobly
transcendental
> about toilets, anyway?
>
>