Fw: Re: Re: The Vulnerable Planet (was Re: suburbia)

[Michael Pugliese <debsian@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

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From: "Michael Pugliese" <debsian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Fw: [PEN-L:14277] Re: Re: The Vulnerable Planet (was Re: suburbia)


>    Just a reminder, in the next few months, try to give a look see to,
"The
> Ecological Indian." I can't believe that Carolyn Merchant would blurb a
> right-wing book.
> http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/departments/espm/facultyinfo/merchant.htm
> Michael
>
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> From: "Louis Proyect" <lnp3@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:24 PM
> Subject: [PEN-L:14277] Re: Re: The Vulnerable Planet (was Re: suburbia)
>
>
> > >In your own words, "Not only is the archaelogical record subject to
> > >multiple interpretations, the hieroglyphic language is not entirely
> > >decipherable despite the best efforts of scholars like Robert J.
> > >Sharer," so there's no last word here.
> >
> > It is the last word in the sense that Sharer is the most respected
scholar
> > on such topics. It is not the last word in the sense that it is very
> > difficult to ever establish with moral certainty and beyond a shadow of
a
> > doubt what happened to the classic Mayan civilization. In any case, the
> > notion of Mayan "anti-ecological" practices is mostly taken up by
> rightwing
> > cranks like Shephard Krech nowadays.
> >
> > >My point is simply that if
> > >you want to know the dynamic internal to the tributary mode of
> > >production in the New World, it's best to study it before its contact
> > >with the Europeans.  I'd be very interested in Sharer's own theory of
> > >how Mayan civilization collapsed, despite the possibility that
> > >intensive agriculture was practiced by the Mayas.  Also, I'd like an
> > >explanation as to why intensive agriculture is necessarily a blow
> > >against all "ecological disaster" theories.
> >
> > You can order Sharer's book from amazon.com:
> >
> >
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0804723109/qid=993756214/sr=1-4/ref=s
> > c_b_4/102-3673537-5938534
> >
> > Louis Proyect
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> >
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