Mark writes:
This means that chronic energy crisis is certain to mutate into energy famine, cruelly frustrating any residual hopes entertained by the South African masses.
The problem of debt, which you raise about Zim, is simply a red-herring. In context, debt, though not trivial, is symptomatic rather than causal. Your hopes about renewables are equally illusory.
What's the point of arguing for revolutionary socialism, if the primary problem today is caused not by social relations (which can be changed through the transition to socialism) but by dependence of industrialization upon fossil fuels (which the transition to socialism may not change & in fact may increase for the time being) & if renewable energy sources are not practical solutions? What's exactly are you arguing for politically if not radical population reduction a la Dave Foreman? Global deindustrialization?
Yoshie
- RE: Re: Current implications for South Africa, (continued)
- RE: Re: Current implications for South Africa, Mark Jones Fri 22 Jun 2001, 22:38 GMT
- Re: Re: Current implications for South Africa, Michael Perelman Sat 23 Jun 2001, 02:04 GMT
- Re: RE: Re: Current implications for South Africa, Patrick Bond Sat 23 Jun 2001, 08:25 GMT
- RE: Re: RE: Re: Current implications for South Africa, Mark Jones Sun 24 Jun 2001, 20:03 GMT
- Re: Current implications for South Africa, Yoshie Furuhashi Sun 24 Jun 2001, 20:44 GMT
- RE: Re: Current implications for South Africa, Mark Jones Sun 24 Jun 2001, 21:40 GMT
- Re: RE: Re: Current implications for South Africa, Carrol Cox Sun 24 Jun 2001, 23:13 GMT
- Re: Re: RE: Re: Current implications for South Africa, Louis Proyect Sun 24 Jun 2001, 23:30 GMT
- John Zerzan: Future Primitive (was Re: Current implications for South Africa), Yoshie Furuhashi Mon 25 Jun 2001, 00:35 GMT