Re: Re: Re: Foucault, Marx, Poulantzas

[Michael Perelman <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ricardo's not was not one of the worst by a long shot, but I am afraid
that my hand has not been heavy enough.  I do appreciate your note.  If
others would respond to provocations the way you did, we would not have
any problems.  What Brad called the tit-for-tat approach, unfortunately,
is the norm.


On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 06:55:30PM -0000, Justin Schwartz wrote:
> Michael, I appreciate your concern with civility, but you are too heavy
> handed in this case. There's nothing personal or ad hominem here; my
> exasperation is purely with the level of reasoning and lack of progress in
> the argument. And I take it that Ricardo's exasperation with my my naivete
> about things about which post-Marxists are sophisticated. I am not
> personally offended, and I hope Ricardo isn't either; I don't think that
> Yoshie has even done anything that anyone would object to. --jks
>
>
> >From: Michael Perelman <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [PEN-L:13772] Re: Foucault, Marx, Poulantzas
> >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:48:05 -0700
> >
> >Almost everybody in this conversation has gone over the top.  I am not
> >singling you out.  It troubles me that intelligent people cannot manage to
> >exchange ideas regarding mutual interests without getting so heated up.
> >Yoshie was on the right track with her masked philosopher approach.  The
> >basic question is are we here to learn what to win a food fight?
> >
> >On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 01:21:09PM -0300, Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
> > >
> > > > Oh, never mind, Yoshie, this is hopeless. Instead of a reasonable
> > > > argument that class doesn't account for as much of the variation as
> > > > historical materialists say (though it really depends on the HM--Marx
> > > > put a lot of emphasis on military factors in the rose of feudalism),
> > > > we have the classic straw man that it doesn't account of all of it all
> > > > the time, which no Marxist has ever maintained.
> > >
> > > Michael, I am cool: this stuff is too innocent for words.
> > >
> > > > I'm out of it.
> > > which relations are you joining now?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >--
> >Michael Perelman
> >Economics Department
> >California State University
> >Chico, CA 95929
> >
> >Tel. 530-898-5321
> >E-Mail michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
>
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Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx