Re: Re: Foucault, Marx, Poulantzas

["Justin Schwartz" <jkschw@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Michael, I appreciate your concern with civility, but you are too heavy
handed in this case. There's nothing personal or ad hominem here; my
exasperation is purely with the level of reasoning and lack of progress in
the argument. And I take it that Ricardo's exasperation with my my naivete
about things about which post-Marxists are sophisticated. I am not
personally offended, and I hope Ricardo isn't either; I don't think that
Yoshie has even done anything that anyone would object to. --jks


> From: Michael Perelman <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PEN-L:13772] Re: Foucault, Marx, Poulantzas
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:48:05 -0700
>
> Almost everybody in this conversation has gone over the top.  I am not
> singling you out.  It troubles me that intelligent people cannot manage to
> exchange ideas regarding mutual interests without getting so heated up.
> Yoshie was on the right track with her masked philosopher approach.  The
> basic question is are we here to learn what to win a food fight?
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 01:21:09PM -0300, Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, never mind, Yoshie, this is hopeless. Instead of a reasonable
> > > argument that class doesn't account for as much of the variation as
> > > historical materialists say (though it really depends on the HM--Marx
> > > put a lot of emphasis on military factors in the rose of feudalism),
> > > we have the classic straw man that it doesn't account of all of it all
> > > the time, which no Marxist has ever maintained.
> >
> > Michael, I am cool: this stuff is too innocent for words.
> >
> > > I'm out of it.
> > which relations are you joining now?
> >
> >
>
> --
> Michael Perelman
> Economics Department
> California State University
> Chico, CA 95929
>
> Tel. 530-898-5321
> E-Mail michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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