Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:Hardt:"Spinoza was a communist thinker long before Marx"

[Doyle Saylor <djsaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Greetings Economists,
Ian Murray writes,
Oh, please. Point to where I ever asserted in the thread that Yoshie
was a dogmatist or that I precluded agreement or dismissed her
argument. This is part and parcel of the problems with email; what
some see as discussion others see as argument. Any suggestions as to
how to obviate that particular problem are most welcome.

Doyle
Look up the Midas Touch Problem, IES (Interest and Emotion Sensitive Media),
Joint Attention theory, Emotion theory.  You can reference some of this in
my posting to Pen-L. "Collaborative work on e-lists" 6/14/01.

I don't think your comment is serious, but the point has ramifications
beyond your observation.  Primarily your question is about how confusing
email is.  The answer is that text does not carry emotional content well.
Nor does email indicate how attention is focused.  In order to work together
or in IT jargon, "collaborate", well together it is necessary to have focus
(pointing to something to pay attention to) clarified, and for emotion to be
more plainly laid out.  Emotion is carried through facial expression.  This
doesn't preclude the emotional clashes happening.  Rather it simply points
out that emotional content in text is ambiguous and difficult to adequately
represent.

Low bandwidth communications cannot meet the requirements of clarity that
emotions and gesture require.  That has to come about if "collaboration" is
to happen.  Working together on projects eventually will be the distributed
norm for left political forces.  Combining pictures and words, in one
document with many hands contributing.

However casual your remark that is the answer.
thanks,
Doyle Saylor