RE: Re: RE: Harry Braverman (was Re: Labor: Menial v s. Noble )

["Forstater, Mathew" <ForstaterM@xxxxxxxx>]

I didn't see kelley or Catherine's posts--were they only on LBO? (I had to unsub
from LBO because I couldn't keep up with the traffic and my computer is
punishing me for having too much e-mail. Are the LBO posts archived?). Or
perhaps I missed them--are they under another subject line?

On race and the intellectual/physical labor skill issue, at the best session I
went to at the ASSA meetings last year (at which I remember being disappointed
in seeing only one other pen-l/urpe person in the audience, btw), an NEA
co-sponsored session on race, racism, and identity with papers and comments by
Rhonda Williams, Sam Myers, Bill Rogers, Bill Spriggs, Patrick Mason, James
Stewart, Sandy Darity, and Lani Guanier (Akerlof was on the program, but neither
he nor his co-author showed), Sam Myers reported on some research in progress
comparing sportscaster/sports reporter comments on African American and white
NFL quarterbacks (traditionally a position reserved for whites).  Comments on AA
q-backs almost always were about physical strength, speed, stamina on the
positive side and about mental/emotional immaturity, impatience, lack of
judgement, etc. on the weak side; while the white q-backs were praised for their
emotional/mental abilities like leadership, maturity, maintaining 'cool' under
pressure, etc.  Since then I have see a few games where one team had a white qb
and the other a black qb and the comments really were split like that.  I have
seen Myers publish some of this, it may have been in one of the recent issues of
the excellent National Urban League _State of Black America_ series.

Mat


From: kelley

At 02:50 PM 12/16/00 -0600, Forstater, Mathew wrote:
>on "mental" and "manual" labor:

perhaps we could get to the basic point, one that catherine and i were
making:  the distinctions tie into gender and race oppression.  and, not
coincidentally, one aspect of this binary opposition between mental and
manual labor is that it is a nice little myth that leads people (white
working class men in particular) to reinscribe their own oppression, if
i
can get all labor process theory on ya.


kelley