kelly, what you say about rationality is true though I would be careful not to confuse Weber's concept of formal rational action with rationality per se. W delineates four types of rationality: formal, practical, theoretical, and substantive. Rational capital accounting, refers to formal rationality as applied to the economic sphere. This formal (economic) rationality should *not* be mistaken with the mere pursuit of gain or the calculation of one's self interest. Every human in every culture is rational in this practical sense, and some cultures did indeed develop formally rational institutions, as exemplified by the Chinese bureaucratic state and its system of examinations. W would insist however that, in the West, formal rationality came to penetrate every sphere of live, including the economy as symbolized by double-bookkeeping.
i'm sorry richard, did i say anything about calculations of self interest? i was talking about the organizational/institutional form of rationality. weber operates on three levels: individual, organizational, and cultural/institutional. when i say that rationality in terms of rationalized capitalism is composed of characteristics that reveal it to be standardized, etc i'm not speaking of individual level motivations.
kelley
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