Re: Re: Re: Fwd: BIG Ithaca HOUR News!

["Justin Schwartz" <jkschw@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

If those few labored citations saved you from time in jail, or saved you a
lot of money in liability, or won you a lot of money in a settlement, well,
maybe it would be worth it. A lot of people seem to think that law isn't so
hard--as a friend of mine from my days as a philosophy professor put it, all
you do is look things up. Try it sometime! (But get a lawyer before you
waste your time as a pro se party in court.) It is true that most lawyers
are wretched, but what makes them special? Most of everybody is wretched at
what they do. Course as a lawyer I am biased. But doing the job right isn't
as easy as you think. --jks


> From: Joanna Sheldon <cjs10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: pen-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PEN-L:3265] Re: Re: Fwd: BIG Ithaca HOUR News!
> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 08:02:26 +1000
>
> At 12:22 19-10-00, Martin wrote:
>
>
> > The thing that I might find distressing would be if a lawyer was needed -
> > and the same disparity in weighted value of hours exists. A lawyer could
> > get hundreds of hours of labor for a few hours of labored citations.
>
> Those who get paid in Ithaca money are encouraged to think of one HOUR as
> being worth one hour's work, no matter what the work is.  Some people do
> charge more, though not by a lot, as far as I know; no one charges
> less.  Since you can exchange your HOURs at the local deli for what other
> people are paying ten dollars for, it's not a bad way for a minimum-wage
> worker to buy lunch.  (What's standard minimum wage in the US these days,
> under five dollars, I think?)
>
> > I'll agree with Michael and Doug about "hours" not solving unemployment.
> > Unemployment is not a problem, just a tool of capital. It's only a
> > problem when there's no alternative system in evolution (like hours.) As
> > to the "margins of the economy" - they could/should become the borders.
>
> I don't suppose HOURS were ever meant to solve unemployment.
>
> cheers,
> Joanna

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