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The simple/elementary form of value considered as a whole (was Re:Charlie Andrew's book)
>>> timework@xxxxxxxxx 09/21/00 10:54AM >>>
Originally, Charles Brown (CB) wrote:
> >CB: Do you happen to recall where Marx makes the distinction between
> >"exchange value" and "value" ? I thought "value" was shorthand for
> >"exchange value" in _Capital_.
Jim Devine suggested a passage on page 128 (vintage) 38 (progress). The
explicit distinction is on page 152/66. Marx is clear in stating that
value and its magnitude DO NOT originate in exchange value, they are
"expressed" in exchange value.
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CB: Agree. Value and its magnitude originate in LABOR, abstract labour.
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He also apologizes for misleading
the reader at the beginning of the chapter by saying that "a commodity is
a use-value and an exchange-value" but he excuses the abbreviation as
harmless ONCE WE KNOW the subtle distinction between value, which is
embodied in the commodity, and exchange-value, which is manifested only in
a relationship with a second commodity of a different kind.
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CB: Agree. Throughout most of the text of _Capital_, "value" is shorthand for exchange-value, after the initial definition regarding exchange-value and use-value is made. Most of _Capital_ is a discussion of exchange-value , not use-value.
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Rather than value being a shorthand for exchange-value, Marx used
exchange-value as a shorthand for value!
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CB: Sort of , except it would be "exchange-value" is LONGhand for "value".
Though most of the book "value" is used. But "value" can be used to refer to "use-value" too. Value in the sense of "wealth" is in the form of commodities, and commodities are bundles of exchange-value and use-value.
- Thread context:
- Re: The simple/elementary form of value . . .,
Timework Web Thu 21 Sep 2000, 16:23 GMT
- RE: The simple/elementary form of value considered a s a whole (was Re: Charlie Andrew's book),
Forstater, Mathew Thu 21 Sep 2000, 15:56 GMT
- The simple/elementary form of value considered as a whole (was Re:Charlie Andrew's book),
Charles Brown Thu 21 Sep 2000, 15:48 GMT
- Value: paragraphs quoted from Capital,
Timework Web Thu 21 Sep 2000, 15:44 GMT
- The simple/elementary form of value considered as a whole (was Re: Charlie Andrew's book),
Timework Web Thu 21 Sep 2000, 14:55 GMT
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