Re: Re: Re: Jim D.'s Micro Marx

[Jim Devine <jdevine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

At 10:25 AM 9/18/00 -0400, you wrote:

> >>> jdevine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 09/15/00 05:38PM >>>
> >I guess I should throw in, for Marx , the basic contradiction of
> >capitalism is the private (micro) nature of appropropriation and the
> >social (macro) nature of production.
>
> right. As far as I know, Marx never said that. Engels did, though.
>
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> ((((((((((((
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> CB: Don't you think Engels said it "for Marx" ?

this sounds like you think that Marx was the fount of truth, while Engels
was only a popularizer.

But they were two separate men, often having different emphases. Engels,
for example, went further in emphasizing the "scientific" side of
scientific socialism (though Draper argues that Marx found an early version
of E's essay on scientific socialism to be excessively pro-Utopian
socialist). Engels seems to have been a better economist (as we define the
term these days, i.e., understanding superficial market phenomena). There's
a whole school of conservative economists who give Engels credit for Marx's
economics. Engels was more interested in military matters and wrote a large
number of articles on them.

The two guys worked together a lot and influenced each other. (Like Sweezy
& Magdoff?)

Jim Devine jdevine@xxxxxxx &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine