Re: Re: Re: Re: Anti-Eurocentrism: Idealist DiversionfromAnti-r

[Doyle Saylor <djsaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Anti-Eurocentrism: Idealist DiversionfromAnti-r

Greetings Economists,

    Ted Winslow goes on at length about understanding the psychology of things to whit, then JKS replies briefly (in his briefs no doubt),

JKS,
As someone who has seen a Brit football riot from a uncomfortably close 
perspectives--if you are close enough to see it. you are too close--I wonder 
if there is that much of a difference. The football match is often as not an 
excuse to murder members of visible minorities. --jks

Doyle
Never been to England.  Can't say your assertion is true or not.  sounds to me like you aver the riot you mentioned because someone was killed and it proves your point.  In the U.S. I have seen a lot of brawls up close, and enjoyed being up close.  I like to see the dynamics of such things.  In riots of course there is a scatter to things.  I read an E. P. Thompson book awhile back describing how the English defiance used riot as a means to keep the Kings rule off their backs (parliament too).  A fairly regulated system I'm sure.   Such things do have meaning.  Not just something to feel horror at.

War is like that too.

Working people have those feelings, and they want to use those feelings some way.  It is over produced.  I mean you feel angry and scared a lot, and you would like an opportunity to practice with those feelings in a way that gives you back some sense of power.  Otherwise it is a life with your mouth shut because you can't talk back and don't have any way to voice your own needs adequately.  No way.

Football games are about managing working class feelings.  To channel them, and especially to use through practice bulwarks to protect the structure against the unstable demands of people who get themselves kicked roundly in a fight.  Practice for the real thing, practice for the fun of it too.
No place to run, no place hide,
Doyle Saylor