Re: Anti-Eurocentrism: Idealist Diversion from An

["Mathew Forstater" <forstate@xxxxxxxx>]

The critique of eurocentrism has been around a lot longer and independently
of postmodern anything.  Only those who only heard of "eurocentrism" in the
last ten years or who only know of it through pomo would emphasize a link
between pomo and the critique of eurocentrism.  Much pomo itself is plenty
eurocentric and whatever critique of eurocentrism is in pomo only shows how
unoriginal much of pomo is.


>> I agree; anti-eurocentrism carries the danger of post-modernism. I would
>> add, however, not every critique of eurocentricism should inevitably
>> lead to post-modernism. Samir Amin has an excellent book called
>> _Eurocentricism_; Samir is not a post-modernist; he is a marxist; or
>> GAyatri Spivak, Indian feminist, for example, argues in her critique of
>> Butler and Foucault that post-modernism is an ideological product of
>> eurocentric mentality even though post-modernists claim that it does not.
>> Post-modernsits do not challange imperialism or pay attention to
>> political economy, which Marxist critics of eurocentricism does. I think
>> one can draw a line between the two if one does not want to fall into
>> problem of "reverse" eurocentricism, orientalism or cultural relativism.
>> Recently, Valantine Moghadam, socialist feminist specialized in women's
>> issues in the middle east has drawn attention to this necessity arguing
>> that women's oppression in the third world is an "interactive" product of
>> global and local capitalism; the universal and the particular;
>> I definetly do not see any problem in arguing that African
>> people are more oppressed than white people, because global
>> capitalism definetly priviliges whites for the world system is racially
>> biased (as well class and gender).An african worker is at a more
>> disadvantage compared to white worker. he is subject to double
oppression,
>> capitalism and racism. sAying this has nothing to do with giving credit
>> post-modernism.
>>
>> To challenge post-modernism, we should still be critical of
>> how eurocentricism is ideologically produced and reproduced not only by
>> the academics here, but also by the academics in the third world
countries
>> under the name new orientalist studies.
>>
>>
>> Mine
>>
>>
>>
>> Carrol wrote:
>>
>>   > The ongoing critique in scholastic circles of "euro-centrism">
>> <more and more appears as a member of that large family of
>> >ideological persuasions generally called "post-modernism,"
>> >defined here as a purely academic compensation for the>
>> >material defeats
>> >the movements of
>>
>>