Re: Turkish Movies, Query. (fwd)

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>G'day all,

>Just by the way ...

>>.i don't know if you can find "Arkadas" (Friendship)
>>specifically, since I had seen it back to turkey many moons ago.

>There are apparently a couple of words for 'friend' in Turkish, and I'm
>given to believe 'arkadas' is the one closest to 'comrade' (with
>something
>of a 'solidarity/ guarding each other's back' connotation about it).  So
>I
>think Mine's speculations are quite compelling.

>Cheers,
>Rob.

actually, I translated speculatively. i don't know how you people
would translate it if you knew Turkish, but given the context of the movie
"arkadas" can be said to come closer to "comradeship", which is what I
would do, though the strict turkish meaning also seems closer to
"friendship". On the other hand, "comradeship" is said to be a
"friendship" between two or groups of "men", so it has a gender
connotation such as brotherly love, solidarity, fraternity, etc...
typically, men call each other comrade, not women, though I do use the
term since I like the original meaning. but, friendship, in the movie, is
strictly not the kind of comradeship we are talking about, because it is a
relationship between man and woman from entirely two different classes and
world views. the young woman, as she is portrayed, is not a "comrade" by
virtue of three facts" 1. she is a bourgeois 2. class enemy and 3. a
female. so they are "friends" in the bourgeois "non-sexual" sense rather
being friends in a "comrade" sense. eventually, they become
"comrades" when she converts.

comradely,(ops!)

Mine