[PEN-L:9566] Re: Credibility:Max's demogogy continue.

["Charles Brown" <CharlesB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, I accidently quoted "ha(ving) has..." when I meant to take out the second "has".  But otherwise the quote seems to match what you reprint below, and the meaning is not misrepresented by that typo.

This is more demogogy.

Charles Brown

>>> Max Sawicky <sawicky@xxxxxxxxxx> 07/22/99 02:02PM >>>
What CB says I said:

"since he blithely ( and I do mean lightly) dismisses the Native American
and African American Genocides as " ha(ving) has zero political impact from
any left political standpoint you care to espouse "

What I really said:

"Calling the treatment of native Americans or the Middle Passage "genocide"
is a rhetorical instrument for indicting bourgeois demoratic capitalism
(BDC) at its root.  That doesn't mean the term is inappropriate; it does
mean that
its political context often -- especially on PEN-L -- makes its use
tendentious.
People are not arguing about history for its own sake -- they
are trying to prop up problematic arguments and political precepts, and
doing it in a way, I might add, that has zero political impact from any left
political standpoint you care to espouse."

mbs