[PEN-L:7649] RE: Re: FW: Imagine...

["Craven, Jim" <jcraven@xxxxxxxxx>]

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From: Wojtek Sokolowski [mailto:sokol@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:32 AM
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>Subject: [PEN-L:7642] Re: FW: Imagine...


At 11:00 AM 6/3/99 -0700, Jim Craven wrote:
>> You say it could not happen to Jews in America or Canada what was done in
>> Nazi Germany? You say that especially after Nuremberg and the horrors
that
>> were revealed there "Never Again" anywhere? With respect to Jews in
>> America and Canada, perhaps all of the above and more could happen and
>> perhaps not. But there is no "perhaps" that all of the above and much
more
>> was done--and is being done--in America and in Canada and elsewhere in
the
>> world to Indigenous Peoples.


Jim, you do not understand.  As Noam Chomsky aptly observed, "in the
special case of the United States, facts are irrelevant."  No matter what
happens here, it is always for the greater good of democracy.  How could
you doubt that?

Besides, there is no comparison between jews and indians, the former are
white.

wojtek

Wojtek,

Sorry, I lost my head. BTW, not all Jews are white, and not all Indians are
non-white in skin color. But I take your point. I was just trying to show
the parallels with reference to one of the most recognized of the
Holocausts, the nazi Holocaust, which of course should never be forgotten
and which only the really hard-core anti-Semites would deny occurred.

I was taking a page out of the manual for social systems engineering that
the imperialists use: do not try to create/indoctrinate new concepts and
symbols but rather appropriate and re-define existing sacreds, institutions,
symbols, etc.

Thanks.

Jim