[PEN-L:7539] Re: Re: RE: DeLong Compares Mao to Hitler

[Brad De Long <delong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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>Stalin and Mao were leaders at the time of enormous objective social and
>economic transformations, revolutions, in which the working masses did
>extract
>some historical justice from exploiting classes, somewhat analogous to the
>French Revolution reign of terror; and there occurred pitched class
>battles of >a sort that had not been planned by all the leaders and
>intellectuals of >revolution.
>
>A major flaw in Brad D's approach is his misrepresentation of the culpable
>causal role of Mao and Stalin whom he slanders here, and elsewhere.
>
>Charles Brown


Zinoviev and Kamenev appear to have disagreed...

According to Antonov-Ovseyenko, Stalin is reported to have sent Voroshilov
to the Lubianka prison to observe the execution of Zinoviev and Kamenev.
Voroshilov, according to Mikoyan, reported that: "as they faced their
executioners, Zinoviev shouted, 'This is a fascist coup!' Kamenev said:
'Stop it, Grisha. Be quiet. Let's die with dignity.' The last words were
Zinoviev's: 'No! This is exactly what Mussolini did. He killed all his
socialist party comrades when he seized power in Italy. Before my death I
must state plainly: what has happened in our country is a fascist coup'."

"Historical justice for the exploiting classes"? "Pitched class battles"?
"Slander of Stalin"?

I must be an idiot to be participating in this. It is beyond belief that
there are--still--such stooges for the half-century dead Stalin...


Brad DeLong


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