[PEN-L:6809] Re: una preguntita

["Charles Brown" <CharlesB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Tom L,

So true, so true, my friend,

And then I look at the O.J. case, Littleton, Bill "all is fair in love and war" Clinton, the fall of the Soviet Union , DNA results of all kinds, etc. and I think: Truth is stranger than fiction; life imitates art.

I'll do a web search on Ewen. I heard a guy speak who used to work for tv advertising who is now anti-tv. He was spilling some of the PR secrets too.
Television tries to turn fiction into fact in another way.


CB


>>> Tom Lehman <uswa12@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 05/14/99 10:23AM >>>
I too like facts, and when they resonate as urban legend or rumor, I like them even better!

Speaking of fiction becoming fact, rather than fact becoming popular---take a look at Stuart Ewen's book PR! A Social History of Spin.

The novel thing about rumors and legends, is they often turn out to be true!

Your email pal,

Tom L.

Charles Brown wrote:

> TL
>
> My idea is WE are correct, virtuous, highminded, cultured, beautiful, efficient, poets, practical, sporty, pals ,all that. Nothing's too good for the working class.
>
> It is THEY  (the tophats) who are wrong, bad, lowdown, incorrect, grammatically off, trashy.
> As we say in the vernacular.
>
> I'm into fact over fiction. I never seem to be able to finish novels.
>
> CB
>
> >>> Tom Lehman <uswa12@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 05/14/99 09:41AM >>>
> Yes, they sure do---and I really don't care how it's phrased.  Vernacular is
> vernacular.  And I'm sure your an expert on Detroit vernacular. ;o)
>
> I read super market tabloids and enjoy urban legends, too.
>
> Your email pal,
>
> Tom L.
>
> Charles Brown wrote:
>
> > Tom,
> >
> > Don't you think most politicians need a lot of political correction ?
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > >>> Tom Lehman <uswa12@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 05/13/99 04:04PM >>>
> > Well, Jim, if it's controls on capital flows. And you can combine that with an
> > effort to educate and legislate controls right into the corporate charters of
> > all corporations foreign, domestic and alien. Then you might have a chance of a
> > "better" globalization.
> >
> > What we do here sets the standard for the rest of the world!
> >
> > On the subject of youth.  It's sort of like the Canadian Steelworker told Doug
> > Henwood's reporter, welcome to the wonderful world of minimum wage or something
> > like that.  Until people start demanding change and I mean demanding it from
> > the politicians nothing is going to change.  People are going to have to
> > button-hole politicians of all parties from the local hack to as high as they
> > can reach if they want real change---up close and very personal and not
> > necessarily politically correct.
> >
> > Your email pal,
> >
> > Tom L.
> >
> > Jim Devine wrote:
> >
> > > Tom Lehman wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > For the big industrial unions like the Steelworkers, which is a pretty
> > > diverse if not the most diverse union, the losses in jobs resulting from
> > > downsizing, globalization etc. have been particularly cruel to our Black
> > > membership.  Because they and their children will never see union protected
> > > jobs again in the so-called brownfields areas. Good jobs to which they
> > > have had easy access.
> > > <<<<
> > >
> > > right: downsizing (broadly defined) hits the "last hired" (those with the
> > > least seniority) hardest. One of the reasons for increased inequality among
> > > wage earners is that there is a shrinking of the sector of the working
> > > class that is able to benefit from "good jobs" (the primary labor market
> > > jobs) so that more and more workers, including younger white workers, are
> > > crowded in the secondary labor markets.
> > >
> > > >>>>
> > > The whole question is where do you draw the line on globalization, and how
> > > do you combat globalization?
> > > <<<<
> > >
> > > I think a better question is how can we create a _better_ globalization
> > > rather than trying strategies that dump the costs on other nations' working
> > > classes via protectionism and the like?
> > >
> > > Jim Devine jdevine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx &
> > > http://clawww.lmu.edu/Faculty/JDevine/jdevine.html
> > > Bombing DESTROYS human rights. US/NATO out of Serbia!