[PEN-L:94] Apology to Max

["James Michael Craven" <cravjm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Max,

If I in any way miscontrued or misunderstood your position or
confused with with Barkley's I sincerely apologize.

I do not believe that in my response to either you or Barkley I was
hurling invective as I tried to present my position with supporting
evidence and/or reasoning and/or supporting opinion free of
invective.

On the issue of the Nizkor list, I did get riled up because
unfortunately that list is dominated by some Holocaust Deniers of
another sort and it really pisses me off when I see the notation we
do not allow Holocaust Deniers on this list and that list is being
dominated by another and more acceptable type of Holocaust denier.

I am sick of people who know nothing about the dimensions of the nazi
Holocaust other than those that relate to Jews, summarily, apriori and arrogantly
dismissing the sufferings of other groups like Roma and Sinti Peoples (Gypsies)--the word
Porrajmos in Romani language means the same as Shoah--or Homosexuals,
or Slavic Peoples or Communists or Righteous Gentiles or Others or
summarily, apriori and arrogantly dismissing the notion of other
Holocausts with lies like: a) Other groups were not specifically
targeted for extermination; b) Other groups did not suffer
proportionately as much as Jews; c) Other groups may have been
tageted for "Cultural" but not physical extinction; d) Other groups
were not specifically "intended" for extermination (read Mein Kampf);
etc; these are out-and-out lies.

Further I resent Jewish exclusivism, a pernicious and more acceptable
form of Holocaust denial being used to promote agenda and reactionary
forces that themselves desecrate in the worst way, because they
cynically use and manipulate the justifiable horrors and anger at was
has been done to Jews in the Holocaust, to promote/justify reactionary agenda
of some Zionists that represent the ultimate in Holocaust denial and
desecration (e.g. selling cluster bombs to the Pinochet Regime
employing Walter Rauff as chief Internal Security Advisor or sharing
nuclear weapons technologies and other support to Aparteid South
Africa whose regimes were riddled with self-professed nazis). And
further I resent people who know nothing about past and present
realities of Indians summarily asserting contrived syllogisms and
supposed logic that "it wouldn't be rational...., It couldn't have
happened that way..." to promote Jewish exclusivism.

And finally, and this is not directed at you in any way, I resent
some of these "Super Jews" and allied non-Jews, caught in a cognitive
dissonance trap (If one is a such a Zionist, why isn't he/she living
in Israel putting body and lifestyle on the line?) who attempt to
resolve their psychological problems flowing from their congitive
dissonance situation, with rabid Zionism, sycophantic whoring and
support for anything Israel does and supports and even further
desecrating other groups of brutalized peoples by vigorously
denying/slandering their true sufferings or the possibility that they
also, like Jews, have suffered horribly.

That Nizkor list is an abomination and represents the worst in
sycophantic dishonesty and true Holocaust denial.

thanks for listening to my rant.

Jim

 James Craven
 Dept. of Economics,Clark College
 1800 E. McLoughlin Blvd. Vancouver, WA. 98663
 jcraven@xxxxxxxxx; Tel: (360) 992-2283 Fax: 992-2863
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Those who eat their fill, speak to the hungry,
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