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[PEN-L:915] Re: A reply to boddhisatva







		C. Proyect,


	Ultimately your Friday response to my question puts forward a
philosophy that "A victory is a victory."  That may be true, but the
question is what *kind* of victory.  I think it's clear that it is a
reformist victory.  There is value in reformism but it is not a substitute
for real progress in getting real economic rights for wage workers.


	First, I never questioned the claims that indigenous people have
on their land and I never suggested that these claims should be abandoned.
What I was questioning is what role those claims have in the struggle to
liberate working people.  I think they have little or no role.  They may
win over indigenous people to left-wing parties, but that is a very small
number of people.  The enthusiasm that leftist have for these causes is
all out of proportion to their importance.  Again, I think that enthusiasm
is based on the fact that these causes are substituting for the more
difficult, more frustrating cause of liberating working people from
capitalism.  When the native people have resolved their land claims, they
will not be liberated from capitalism.  They will not even be able to hide
from capitalism for very long if at all.  Neither will leftists.



	peace




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