[PEN-L:659] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nature bites back

[boddhisatva <kbevans@xxxxxxxxx>]

		C. Proyect,


	First, it is both entirely Marxist and entirely *true* to say that
feudal societies were more capable than hunter-gatherer societies and that
capitalism is more capable than feudalism.  It is by no means Social
Darwinism since *I* do not associate certain people with certain systems
and others with others, as you seem happy to do.



	I'm entirely aware that indigenous people have been done over by
capitalist societies and *I* understand that members of the good old
proletariat have done quite a little bit of that doing over.  Indigenous
people are in a process of joining the rest of the proletariat - to the
extent that they are accepted into and not divided from the proletariat.
The anti-racist message of respect for indigenous cultures is entirely
laudable.  The idea that indigenous people are not part of the proletariat
is very, very, problematic.  Again, I think the present fascination with
indigenous people is well-intentioned and compassionate but that it
represents a fleeing of intellectuals from the problems of the industrial
proletariat.


	I think you should come to terms, publicly, with the fact that the
mode of production indigenous cultures are based on is not viable.
Indeed, even your cherished Amazon indios are happy to use shotguns and
machetes.


	peace