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"Classic" revolutions
Jim Devine:
>
>State-owned property does not make a society proletarian. After all, the
>Pharoah owned the means of production in ancient Egypt. He was hardly
>proletarian.
>
>"Expropriation of the bourgeoisie" is necessary but not sufficient to make
>a revolution "proletarian," since the state bureaucrats can end up holding
>all the cards.
>
>Anyway, in what sense was the NKorean revolution "proletarian"?
>
No revolution is really of the "classic" kind, including the bourgeois
revolution. For all of the use that Marx and Engels made of the French
Revolution of 1789 as a "classic" one, the bourgeoisie did not really lead
the revolution, but elements of the aristocracy. So argues George Comnimel,
a Canadian Marxist of some repute.
North Korea was a proletarian revolution in the same sense that the
Vietnamese or the Chinese revolution were. They were anti-capitalist, just
as the French revolution was anti-feudal despite being led by social layers
not identical with the rising bourgeoisie.
Louis Proyect
- Thread context:
- N vs. S. Korea,
James Devine Thu 09 Oct 1997, 18:39 GMT
- Today's Wall Street Journal on Mankiw's new book,
William S. Lear Thu 09 Oct 1997, 18:04 GMT
- [no subject],
Louis Proyect Thu 09 Oct 1997, 17:55 GMT
- re: "Classic" revolutions,
john gulick Thu 09 Oct 1997, 17:16 GMT
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- "Classic" revolutions,
Louis Proyect Thu 09 Oct 1997, 19:01 GMT
- re: "Classic" revolutions,
James Devine Thu 09 Oct 1997, 21:47 GMT
- re: "Classic" revolutions,
Louis N Proyect Thu 09 Oct 1997, 23:12 GMT
- re: "Classic" revolutions,
Doug Henwood Fri 10 Oct 1997, 03:02 GMT
- re: "Classic" revolutions,
Louis N Proyect Fri 10 Oct 1997, 13:27 GMT
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