[PEN-L:11159] Re: shun him!

["Karl Carlile" <joseph@xxxxxxxxx>]

KARL: I attacked sexism Billy boy. Do you know anything?
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On  6 Jul 97 at 22:05, Bill Burgess wrote:

Shunning is better than cutting someone out of the list, but it takes
a high degree of agreement and self-discipline among listers.

I sometimes despair at the little room that is often allowed for (what
I think are) ideas worth hearing, or if not worth hearing, at least
better heard than held secretly. However, Karl's comments were sexist
in a way that I don't think most of us would tolerate in a
face-to-face conversation, or at any public event we had any
responsibility for.

I say thank you Michael P. for kicking him out. This is not
censorship. It is our right to a democratic atmosphere for
discussions, and that requires prompt action against the kind of
blatant and aggressive sexism I read in Karl's first couple of
messages (I am assuming the rest were more of the same, because I
didn't read through them).

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Bill Burgess  (burgess@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Department of Geography,                 Tel: (604) 822-2663
University of British Columbia, B.C.     Fax: (604) 822-6150







                          Yours etc.,
                                     Karl