[PEN-L:3839] Re: Marx quote???

[djones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (rakesh bhandari)]

..  It is something to the effect that "the handmill give
>us ..."

feudalism, and the steam engine gives us industrial capital.   It's in *the
Poverty of Philosophy*, as Gil just pointed out.

 Perhaps the more important example of 'technological determinism' is
Marx's discussion of the change in productive forces from manufacture to
machinery within capitalist society and the *objective* tendencies which
result in a bourgeois system based on machinery: the proletarianization of
craft labor and the rise of the mass worker,  business cycles due to the
periodic replacement of fixed capital, moral depreciation, the rise in the
organic composition of capital, the falling rate of profit, etc.

However, the most interesting question, I would imagine, is whether
industrial capital gives us a certain kind of machinery, a certain form of
technology.  It surely seems to dump in the third world many forms of
inappropriate machinery which would otherwise have been lost to moral
depreciation in the advanced capitalist nations.

Rakesh