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[PEN-L:5000] Marx, Usury, Exploitation
- Subject: [PEN-L:5000] Marx, Usury, Exploitation
- From: cns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 09:14:12 -0700
"Marxist" definitions don't always equal "definitions made by
Marx." We have made some progress. Marx's original sense of
"real subsumption" is too vague, and also wrong. If you
include "mode of cooperation" as part of the "labor process,"
capital "subsumed" labor well before technology got transformed.
The importance of defining real subsumption in terms of the absence
of a market for skills outside of the capitalist framework is that
a sociological, not only economic, truth about capitalism is revealed.
A contribution to the theory of social classes.
As for carpenters, welders, etc., -- there are damn few carpenters
(now called contractors), and lots of framers, sheet rock specialists,
shinglers, etc., few if any of whom can find employment outside of a
capitalistic workplace. All of those whose skills CAN be employed
equally in the capitalist workplace AND in self-organized production
(small commodity production) are not "subsumed" under capital.
Sociologically speaking, they can "change" classes.
Jim O'Connor
- Thread context:
- [PEN-L:5004] Re: Revolt of the Haves,
Robert Peter Burns Mon 08 May 1995, 19:34 GMT
- [PEN-L:5003] job announcement,
Robert Naiman Mon 08 May 1995, 18:58 GMT
- [PEN-L:5002] Re: revolt of the haves,
ROSSERJB Mon 08 May 1995, 17:22 GMT
- [PEN-L:5001] Re: Revolt of the Haves,
Jim Devine Mon 08 May 1995, 16:36 GMT
- [PEN-L:5000] Marx, Usury, Exploitation,
cns Mon 08 May 1995, 16:14 GMT
- [PEN-L:4999] humor,
Michael Perelman Mon 08 May 1995, 15:05 GMT
- [PEN-L:4998] Can the US Catch Up with Europe?,
Marianne Hill Mon 08 May 1995, 14:21 GMT
- [PEN-L:4997] Re: Revolt of the Haves--global race to the bottom,
Doug Henwood Mon 08 May 1995, 13:54 GMT
- [PEN-L:4996] Re: Revolt of the Haves--global race to the bottom,
glenn rayp Mon 08 May 1995, 11:44 GMT
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