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RE: [OPE] estimating the severity and duration of a capitalist economic crisis



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One thing that attracts me to Marx and the better Marxian research traditions is precisely their track record of successful socio-economic predictions. Of course it is also true that Marxian thought attracts many prophesying dilletantes with skimpy knowledge, who venture to surprise the world with a few bold forecasts they just shake out of their sleeve.
 At the beginning of the 1960s, both Milton Friedman and Ernest Mandel predicted that the long boom would end as the 1960s drew to a close, and they explained why they thought that, namely near-full employment was not compatible with price stability in the long term. That was a successful longterm prediction. In the social sciences, generally you can make few accurate and useful predictions of events beyond 5-10 years, although you can forecast some long-range tendencies which follow from a particular social structure or demographic structure.
 
 
 
Hi Jurriaan:
 
I think that Marxians are pretty good at predicting long-term
economic trends for capitalism. They are not very good at all
at predicting short- to medium-term macro trends, including
estimations of timing and severity.
 
Marxians are pretty good at predicting firm activity on the
production / cost side but are less good at predicting
circulation /demand. Business may have a decent record
re the latter (at least during periods of relative
market and macro stability). because (as you point out)
it's part of their business.
 
As for demographic projections, I think that Marxians
have been pretty good at projecting long-term
demographic shifts (e.g. from the countryside to
urban areas; international migration) but not so good
at projecting much else having to do with demography.
 
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(general comment, not responding to you, Jurriaan):
 
On another list, someone wrote yesterday:
 
"Timing in 'economics' and also in the critique of
political economy is a fool's game past a certain
point. So what? We predict the demise of the
patient, but can't predict the date of the demise.
So what?"
 
 
To which my response would be: you can predict
the demise of a patient. So what? All class
societies and modes of production will eventually
die. If that's all you can say, then that's precious
little and you run the risk of being a Marxian
Chicken Little. Even if we can't predict 
exact dates we should be able to make statements
which are verifiable or not. If you say that _eventually_
there will be a major economic crisis then you have
basically said nothing and also inoculated yourself
from criticism since you can say "just wait....".
 
In solidarity, Jerry
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