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I have been asked to forward another posting on this which I enclose. After this I want to call a halt to being a postal intermediary. If the participants want to go on debating via the list I think they should rejoin it. -----Original Message----- From: OPE-L [mailto:OPE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Philip Dunn Sent: 22 November 2007 19:42 To: OPE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [OPE-L] book review of Kliman's book On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 10:58 +0000, Paul Cockshott wrote: > Philip > > However, the writer gives no indication that he understands the TSSI or > SSSI or Marx even. > > p.10 > "The illogicality of his argument becomes apparent when we look at his > MELT from the other side. Let us assume with Kliman that $1 = 1/3 hours > of labor. Then it must imply that 1 hour of labor = $3. Let us call it > labor equivalent of money (LEM). If we apply our LEM to Klimanâs example > of the two sectors above, the $ price of commodity 1 must be > $200 + (8x3) = $224 and the $ price of commodity 2 must be > $40 + (16x3) = $88. But his output prices are different. Therefore, MELT > is an irrational measure of conversion from labor to $ or $ to labor." > > The confusion between price and value! Neither TSSI nor SSSI nor Marx > calculates *prices* as the constant capital transferred in dollars plus > labour converted to dollars. What is calculated here is the *value* of > output expressed in dollars. > > (I take that the writer is assuming a constant MELT/LEM here.) > -------------------------------------- > If there are only two sectors then the total value of output expressed > In dollars will be the same as the total price, so Ajit's assumption > Seems sound > > Cheers Hi Paul, I am puzzled. Ajit was calculating sectoral prices, not total price. Besides, in TSSI, however many sectors there are, the total value of output expressed in dollars will be the same as the total price, since the MELT is defined as total price over total value. ___________________________________________________________ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
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- [OPE-L] book review of Kliman's book, (continued)
- [OPE-L] book review of Kliman's book, Paul Cockshott Tue 20 Nov 2007, 11:27 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] book review of Kliman's book, Philip Dunn Wed 21 Nov 2007, 23:42 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] book review of Kliman's book, Paul Cockshott Thu 22 Nov 2007, 10:53 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] book review of Kliman's book, Philip Dunn Thu 22 Nov 2007, 19:34 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] book review of Kliman's book, Paul Cockshott Mon 26 Nov 2007, 09:35 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] book review of Kliman's book, Dave Zachariah Thu 22 Nov 2007, 18:10 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] book review of Kliman's book, Philip Dunn Thu 22 Nov 2007, 00:54 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] book review of Kliman's book, Paul Cockshott Thu 22 Nov 2007, 22:03 GMT
- [OPE-L] My resignation to AC, Alejandro Valle Baeza Mon 19 Nov 2007, 17:41 GMT