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If the phenomenon of value has both objective and
subjective dimensions, a theory of value has to explicate the relationship
between them, that is the real point. Human "valuers" operate in an environment
in which values also exist in an objectified way, i.e. independent of their
particular wills or consciousness. Subjectivist theories fail to explain the
objectification of value, but objective theories fail to explain e.g. why,
if no human valuers whatsoever are around, value does not exist, i.e. human
valuers are presupposed in the objectification of value.
A price may be regarded as objective, but insofar
as it is a negotiated price, subjective valuations are presupposed in its
formation. At best we can say that the negotiated price occurs within certain
limits, which may be objectively given. If hypothetically I seek to buy an Opel
car, I may pay a thousand euro more or less, depending on its condition and what
I can negotiate, but I wouldn't pay a million euro for it (unless it was
made of gold etc.) presuming I owned a million euro to buy it with (wish
that was true).
If we were to eliminate the subjective dimension of
value, we would eliminate active human subjects. Presumably for a dynamic theory
of capitalist development, we need to reckon with active human subjects whose
subjective valuations have objective antecedents and consequences, i.e. whose
actions are both determining and determined.
Jurriaan
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- Re: [OPE-L] Lawrence Krader on objective and subjective value, (continued)
- Re: [OPE-L] Lawrence Krader on objective and subjective value, Rakesh Bhandari Thu 08 Nov 2007, 18:49 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] Lawrence Krader on objective and subjective value, Paul Cockshott Thu 08 Nov 2007, 21:50 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] Lawrence Krader on objective and subjective value, GERALD LEVY Fri 09 Nov 2007, 11:54 GMT
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- Re: [OPE-L] Lawrence Krader on objective and subjective value, GERALD LEVY Sat 10 Nov 2007, 12:06 GMT
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- Re: [OPE-L] Lawrence Krader on objective and subjective value, GERALD LEVY Sun 11 Nov 2007, 14:11 GMT
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