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>The title of the book is Capital. Capital is defined as "money that > makes more money" i.e. M . (M + dM). This is the main phenomenon to be > explained in Marx's theory, which he highlights and emphasizes in > Chapter 4 of Volume 1. Hi Fred: <sigh> Capital is not "defined" as "money that makes more money". Capital represents a set of specific SOCIAL RELATIONSHIPS, some of which are expressed quantitatively. What Marx is trying to do in posing what seems to be a puzzle -- what is the source of dM? -- is to explain how this dM is an expression of SURPLUS VALUE. Surplus value represents a SOCIAL RELATION: class exploitation is QUALITATIVE but the character of the COMMODITY-FORM means that this QUALITATIVE relation comes to be expressed QUANTITATIVELY. Thus, value and surplus value have BOTH qualitative and quantitative dimensions. It is a a VERY serious mistake, imo, to think that the quantitative is the "most important dimension" of Marx's theory because it mystifies and obscures the central importance of the qualitative social relations which he seeks to explain. > I am not saying that other questions are not important. I am just > saying that the production is the most important feature of capitalism, > and therefore the most important question in Marx's theory of > capitalism. I strongly disagree with this formulation as well. In some NON-CAPITALIST modes of production, it could be said that "production is the most important feature" of those modes of production. More specifically, what the previous sentence means is that by examining the production process one can explain the fundamental social relations specific to those modes of production. In CAPITALISM, however, the production and reproduction of that mode of production requires the UNITY OF THE PROCESSES OF CAPITALIST PRODUCTION AND CAPITALIST CIRCULATION. To say that "production is the most important feature of capitalism" is one-sided and does not adequately grasp the character of the COMMODITY-FORM. The circulation process is JUST as necessary and important FOR CAPITALISM as the production process. When you say that "production is the most important feature" you are, alas, echoing the voices and writings of many other Marxists over the years just as when you said that the quantitative is "the most important dimension" of Marx's theory I hear the echoes of other Marxists (e.g. Andrew Kliman) who-- despite differences on other matters -- have similarly one-sidedly viewed his theory in that way. In solidarity, Jerry
- Re: [OPE-L] questions on the interpretation of labour values, (continued)
- Re: [OPE-L] questions on the interpretation of labour values, Pen-L Fred Moseley Fri 23 Mar 2007, 02:36 GMT
- [OPE-L] What is most important in Marx's theory?, Jerry Levy Wed 07 Mar 2007, 15:22 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] What is most important in Marx's theory?, Dogan Goecmen Wed 07 Mar 2007, 15:36 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] What is most important in Marx's theory?, Pen-L Fred Moseley Fri 09 Mar 2007, 14:22 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] What is most important in Marx's theory?, Jerry Levy Fri 09 Mar 2007, 17:01 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] What is most important in Marx's theory?, Pen-L Fred Moseley Sat 10 Mar 2007, 15:54 GMT
- [OPE-L] questions on the interpretation of labour values, Jurriaan Bendien Sat 03 Mar 2007, 03:30 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] questions on the interpretation of labour values, Jerry Levy Sun 04 Mar 2007, 16:14 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] questions on the interpretation of labour values, ajit sinha Sun 04 Mar 2007, 19:52 GMT