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--- Jerry Levy <Gerald_A_Levy@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Ajit and Howard:
OK, Ajit. Thanks for your re-cap and narrative. I agree that we should stick to one question at a time. Let's stick to the question: is money an *essential* aspect of capitalism? (it's not that I am "more comfortable with" the concept of essential; rather, it's that I am more comfortable having a *cross-paradigm discussion* over that topic.)
Let me ask you a direct 'yes or no' question:
-- is money essential to capitalism?
If you answer that question 'yes' then that will lead us in one direction of discussion; if you answer it 'no' then it will lead us in another direction.
It should be clear, on the basis of other posts, that I would answer that question with a 'yes'._____________________________
Well, Jerry! I don't know how long I can go on on this thread, but I will try to humour you one more time. Instead of answering your question by yes or no, let me ask you few yes or no questions: (1) Is transportation of goods essential to capitalism? (2) Is stock Market essential to Capitalism? (3) Are Engineering colleges essential to capitalism? (4) Are schools essential to capitalism? (5) Are railways, roads, and ports essential to capitalism? ... You may answer yes to all the above questions or yes to some or no to some depending on your choice. The point is that such questions are of no particular interest as such. I'm not sure whether you have a good sense of what you mean by "money" when you ask the question. The interesting thing about Adam Smith and the rest of classical economists as well as most of neoclassical economists is not that they give "no" answer to your question--actually they don't; they simply don't ask such sterile questions--but rather that they showed through their analysis that changes in money supply causes only 'nominal effects' in the system and not 'real effect'.
Even more important in this content than the nominal/real distinction is Adam Smith's critique of mercantilism which is an argument that money serves as an obstacle to the capitalist development of real wealth (Foley's succinct and brilliant analysis of Smith's critique of mercantilism is even better than II Rubin's as is Foley's analysis of Ricardo's rent theory) .
Yet as Marx underlined the mercantilist fetish of money proves not to be a discarded superstition in a general panic.
Rakesh
The interesting thing about Keynes is not that he answered "yes" to your question, but rather through his analysis he showed that changes in money supply has real effect--thus the nominal and the real economy cannot be dichotomized. The point of it all is that you need to stop asking theoretically sterile questions if you want to do something interesting. I hope this was helpful. Cheers, ajit sinha
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- Re: [OPE-L] the long and the short of it, (continued)
- Re: [OPE-L] the long and the short of it, ajit sinha Thu 14 Sep 2006, 18:45 GMT
- [OPE-L] essentials and essence, Howard Engelskirchen Fri 15 Sep 2006, 05:23 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] essentials and scope, Jerry Levy Fri 15 Sep 2006, 12:24 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] essentials and scope, ajit sinha Fri 15 Sep 2006, 13:45 GMT
- Re: [OPE-L] essentials and scope, Rakesh Bhandari Fri 15 Sep 2006, 16:05 GMT