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Re: [OPE-L] essentials and scope



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--- Jerry Levy <Gerald_A_Levy@xxxxxxx> wrote:

 Ajit and Howard:

 OK, Ajit.  Thanks for your re-cap and narrative.  I
 agree that we
 should stick to one question at a time.  Let's stick
 to the
 question: is money an *essential* aspect of
 capitalism?  (it's not that I am "more comfortable
 with" the concept of essential; rather, it's that I
 am more
 comfortable having a *cross-paradigm discussion*
 over
 that topic.)

 Let me ask you a direct 'yes or no' question:

 -- is money essential to capitalism?

 If you answer that question 'yes' then that will
 lead us in
 one direction of discussion; if you answer it 'no'
 then
 it will lead us in another direction.

 It should be clear, on the basis of other posts,
 that I would
 answer that question with a 'yes'.
_____________________________

Well, Jerry! I don't know how long I can go on on this
thread, but I will try to humour you one more time.
Instead of answering your question by yes or no, let
me ask you few yes or no questions:
(1) Is transportation of goods essential to
capitalism?
(2) Is stock Market essential to Capitalism?
(3) Are Engineering colleges essential to capitalism?
(4) Are schools essential to capitalism?
(5) Are railways, roads, and ports essential to
capitalism?
...
You may answer yes to all the above questions or yes
to some or no to some depending on your choice. The
point is that such questions are of no particular
interest as such. I'm not sure whether you have a good
sense of what you mean by "money" when you ask the
question. The interesting thing about Adam Smith and
the rest of classical economists as well as most of
neoclassical economists is not that they give "no"
answer to your question--actually they don't; they
simply don't ask such sterile questions--but rather
that they showed through their analysis that changes
in money supply causes only 'nominal effects' in the
system and not 'real effect'.

Even more important in this content than the nominal/real distinction is Adam Smith's critique of mercantilism which is an argument that money serves as an obstacle to the capitalist development of real wealth (Foley's succinct and brilliant analysis of Smith's critique of mercantilism is even better than II Rubin's as is Foley's analysis of Ricardo's rent theory) .

Yet as Marx underlined the mercantilist fetish of money proves not to
be a discarded superstition in a general panic.

Rakesh




The interesting thing
about Keynes is not that he answered "yes" to your
question, but rather through his analysis he showed
that changes in money supply has real effect--thus the
nominal and the real economy cannot be dichotomized.
The point of it all is that you need to stop asking
theoretically sterile questions if you want to do
something interesting. I hope this was helpful.
Cheers, ajit sinha


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