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The point remains that Neocleous emphasizes (and insists) that he has clarified the meaning of the vampire metaphor--that capital is undead as it appropriates the sensuous energy of living labor. Your vampire comment in 1996 is long way off from that. I am worried that Neocleous' idea entered OPE-L discussion without any acknowledgement. Whether you or someone else is responsible (and someone else may be responsible) is of no importance; what is of more importance is we insist upon proper acknowledgements in this forum. Especially when a thinker of importance is insisting that he has contributed this very idea. Which is more than an example or a throwaway comment but at the very heart of a major article and even a book. I hope you see my point. Rakesh
> >Who "appropriated" Neocleous's interpretation?Who referred to capital as undead? That would be the answer to your question.
Rakesh,
The answer to the question is that no one did anything improper on the list re Neocleous -- except you. In your haste to post his article, you did not take note of his stipulation that:
"Electronic copies of this paper may not be posted on any other website without express permission of the author."
Your careless action has meant that I (and possibly Allin and Hans) might have to clean up the mess you created since when you posted his article it meant that it was automatically archived on the 'ricardo' and 'utah' servers. Please try to be more careful next time. Thank you.
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To repeat (and for the record),
I never saw Neocleous's "Blood Capital and Dead Labour" paper until you recently posted it on OPE-L.
I was unaware of his _History of Political Thought_ article until a few days ago and still haven't seen a copy. The abstract, which is online and I read the other day, says very little about the content of his paper.
I only became aware of anything Neocleous wrote on this subject on November 4 when I received a post from Andrew Chitty sent to the mps list concerning MN's book _The Monstrous and the Dead_. That same day I forwarded that announcement to OPE-L.
I have referred to vampires, the undead and Marx on OPE-L going at least as far back as May, 1996. As I explained previously, the idea that labour is undead using the vampire metaphor only makes sense if capital is posited as vampiric and hence also undead.
***I have done ABSOLUTELY nothing improper and I strongly resent any suggestions to the contrary.***
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***If there is anyone on the list _other than Rakesh_ who believes that there has been even an iota of evidence put forward that I have acted improperly, _please_ speak up. If not, then let us move on to discuss other topics.***
In solidarity, Jerry
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