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The following excerpt from Engels' _Anti-Duhring_ is noteworthy in relation to our discussion of "ghostly" substance in -capital_ "For in capitalist society the MEANS OF PRODUCTION can only function when they have undergone a preliminary TRANSFORMATION INTO CAPITAL, into the means of exploiting human labour-power. The necessity of this transformation into capital of the means of production and subsistence stands LIKE A GHOST BETWEEN THESE AND THE WORKERS. It alone prevents the coming together of the material and personal levers of production; it alone forbids the means of production to function, the workers to work and live. On the one hand, therefore, the capitalistic mode of production stands convicted of its own incapacity to further direct these productive forces. On the other, these productive forces themselves, with increasing energy, press forward to the removal of the existing contradiction, to the abolition of their quality as capital, *to the practical recognition of their character as social productive forces*." (Part III Socialism, Ch. 2 Theoretical, CAPITALIZATION added, other emphasis in original, JL) This is part of the section that was later also published as the pamphlet "Socialism: Utopian and Scientific". Is he basically saying the same thing re 'ghosts' as Marx? In solidarity, Jerry
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