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Jerry, Paul So Jerry is taking the perspective of system-wide conditions of existence. Paul is, on the other hand, taking the perspective of any individual commodity within the system (pre-supposing the existence of the system, and the internal relations that define it). Then you are both right, no? Andy PS I promise this is the last time I mention this notion of difference of perspectives.... -----Original Message----- From: OPE-L [mailto:OPE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of glevy@xxxxxxxxx Sent: 27 October 2005 14:32 To: OPE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [OPE-L] Capital in General > You seem to be saying variable capital of a particular value is not > 'laid out' in order to purchase labour power? But that somehow until the > labour power is purchased ( with something of no value?) it has no > value, and does not work within a social relation?... Don't we have to > start with the assumption that the relation exists and then analyse its > movement, rather than waiting for the individual 'blessing' of the > market ? Paul B: The issue (the way I see it) is not one of waiting for a 'blessing'; rather, the issue is conceiving of the value relation in such a way that all _necessary_ moments in that relation are grasped and inter-related. In solidarity, Jerry
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