Re: the productive macworker

[Paul C <clyder@xxxxxxxxxx>]

michael a. lebowitz wrote:

> At 17:21 20/05/2004, Paul Bullock wrote:
>
> >  What are you wanting to measure and why?  Whilst Marx showed that
> > the movement and dimensions of particular economic phenomena were
> > indeed regulated by the basic law of value (which Ricardo could not),
> > that regulation is still a process  that leaves  room  for maneouvre
> > by all interests. I am wary of trying to count items  when they are
> > constantly being expanded, reduced, re devised and so on all the
> > time. The best we can do is generate broad categories, which various
> > authors have tried to do.( If they left food preparation out of their
> > calculations as capital moved into the field, then they made a
> > mistake and should reflect on why) This will give us a decent enough
> > illustration of general trends.
>
>
> Paul, once again we agree. (This is frightening!) I don't want to
> measure anything myself. But there are people on the list who do
> engage in measurement (eg., Paul C., Allin, Fred M and I'm sure there
> are others as well). Do they include the Macworkers as productive of
> surplus value?

If  my memory does not mislead me I have treated the catering trade as
productive when I #
have attempted to estimate total surplus value.