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Hi Paul B.
> All sorts of sections of workers,
creating or circulating capital are
> constantly under attack by capital. It is
certainly true that a particular
> time, in the 1970's, the distinction was
specifically seized upon by
> Thatcherites to divide the workers. The
answers then included the
> need to establish that the distinction did
exist for capital .Both
> were exploited and both needed to avoid
discounting the other on
> the basis of some latter day Smithianism
fanned through the press.
I agree. What some seem to think is that productive
workers have
some kind of standing which means that their
struggles are more
privileged and important that those of unproductive
workers. That
standpoint must be rejected from a working-class
perspective. From
our perspective what is needed is solidarity by
_all_ workers
irrespective of whether they are productively
employed by capital
or unproductively employed by capital _or_
the state. To begin
with, we have to recognize as Marx did that it's
not an honor to be
a productive worker: "It is a misfortune to be a
productive labourer.
A productive labourer is a labourer who produces
wealth *for
another*" (_TSV_, Progress ed., p.
225). Also, we have to recall
that some important trends in the composition of
the working class
in the post-WW2 period (especially in the advanced
capitalist nations)
include an increase in the proportion of workers
who are employed
as service workers (and, as we've seen there
workers can be productive
or unproductive or their working day can be
partially productive) and
state employees. What is important
politically is that we support the
struggles of all of these workers rather than just
privilege the struggles
of industrial workers. This is vitally
important because working-class
unity can not come about without working-class
solidarity. E.g. we
must reject the conservative and
liberal political effort to blame state
employees for budget deficits and to drive down the
size, wages, and
benefit packages of those workers. (btw, the
bourgeois conception
on this question can be seen in mainstream public
finance theory. I
mention this because it relates to another thread
we've been discussing.)
Such an effort makes 'sense' from the perspective of many workers but
it must be strongly argued against and fought. Sometimes, also, I think
than a willingness to downplay the struggles of
service or state workers
reflects gender and racial
biases. (I would be surprised if you
disagreed
with any of the above.)
> Where's the political beef?
Clever! Well, the 'political beef' in the US
is the following: there has been
a net decrease in manufacturing jobs which tend to
be higher-paid jobs
than jobs in the service sector. So, by
re-designating macworkers as
manufacturing workers it makes it appear that the
loss of manufacturing
jobs isn't as great as it is and that the
higher-paid jobs aren't being lost
to the extent that some claim.
in solidarity, Jerry
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