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At 23.55 19/02/2004 -0800, you wrote:"I do not agree with either the orthodox theory or Screpanti's, but that is irrelevant. It is the charge of incoherence that -I would guess- would attract the 'Damned Lies' bit."
Oh! I had not seen this one and I'm not sure who wrote this. It could well be a good joke. Coherence is the last thing one can find in the TSS approach to Marx or for that matter anything. It is laughable that the author of the above quote thinks that such a mild criticism of an approach deserves to be called "dammed lies". I think the TSS is not only incoherent but simply nonsensical! ajit sinha
My charge against Charchedi's TSS approach was twofold: Inconsistency: he uses Marx's reproduction conditions but then determines prices without respecting these conditions;
Ernesto, I don't understand the criticism. Marx analyzes simple and expanded reproduction without ever determining prices that respected those conditions: the schema are given in fixed values. The schema are only a preliminary and provisional analysis of the difficulties in the circulation of the capital. Why should a price theory have to hold in conditions of simple reproduction (Bortkiewicz) or even equilibrium (Winternitz)?
A theory of market prices need not require these conditions to hold. A theory of production prices does. On the other hand, Carchedi assumes that the structure of demand is such that no realization problems exist and the rate of profit is uniform. This implies that the system is in reproduction equilibrium. Then Carchedi "transforms" his "values" into his "prices" in such a way that this condition does not hold.
dogmatism: Marx (as he interprets him) is always right.
Again there are indeed those of us who think Marx was more incomplete than incorrect.
"More" means that you believe he is at least a little incorrect? In what?
There is nothing inherently dogmatic about this position
Of course.
especially since Marx developed his theory through a careful and detailed critique of the theorists who preceded him.
Yours, Rakesh
Best
Ernesto
ps didn't Carchedi write a price with Werner de Haan about the replacement of fixed capital in conditions of simple reproduction?
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