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At 14:35 +0100 18-02-2004, Ernesto Screpanti wrote:
Riccardo says that my interpretation of Marx is wrong. May be he (as Carchedi & co.) is a true believer and knows the Truth as it is revealed in the Book. Not me. Please let's discuss about economics and logic, and avoid the "ipse dixit" method.
Dea Ernesto,
I thought, and still think, that you are not Kliman, so you are able to bear different opinions.
You know very well a lot of our disagreements, since we discussed them in many occasions.
To say only one thing, you attribute to Marx a belief in Locke's proposition according to which in the natural order (translated as production in general) the value of the product is the product of labour, so that value is created by labour.
This for me is definitely wrong. I have written about that a lot, and I don't see in your writings any reasonable support to your interpretation.
You know that I am against dogmatism, and mine is an INTERPRETATION of Marx, as yours. On THIS plane, there is nothing wrong in a serious, non dogmatic research of what Marx really said, as in what Sraffa, or Keynes, or Schumpeter, ore even Ernesto really said.
That said, among us, your phrase about me as true believer is stupid.
friendly
riccardo
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