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Hi again Phil. I had a longer version of the
following
butI edited it to ensure
that the focus stays where I
think it should remain.
> I have not seen Andrew Kliman's paper so I cannot
> really comment on title selection.
It's the *title* of the paper
which is so damning (excuse
the pun). By picking that title any possible
discussion
of the article contents (good or bad) is -- almost
inevitably
-- blocked and the focus of discussion then is
(and should
be) re-directed to the title
itself. It is thus a self-defeating act.
Had someone who was critical of the TSSI written
an
article directed at an interpretation of Marx by a
TSS
supporter named 'Omega'
entitled "Lies, Damned
Lies, Omega's Critique of
Marx", would you still have to
see and read the paper before commenting on
title
selection?
Whether I agree or disagree with Ernesto is really
besides
the point. There is an important political point here related
to solidarity. And, btw, had there
really been an 'Omega'
and had someone written an article with the title above,
then I would have called the attention of the list to it. The
issue here is more important, imo, than
disputes over
TSS vs. SSS interpretations of the quantitative aspects of
Marx's theory.
> I do not agree with either the orthodox theory or Screpanti's,
> but that is irrelevant. It is the charge of incoherence that -
> I would guess- would attract the 'Damned Lies' bit.
One can have a mistaken interpretation of
Marx, but that
doesn't mean that *lies* are
being spread. And here I differ
a bit with Riccardo who suggested that Ernesto
spread
lies but not "damn lies". In the English language
to say
that something is a lie is a much stronger statement
than
to suggest that someone's perspective is mistaken or in
error. I don't know Ernesto personally, but I
find the implication
(and how else could one read the title as suggesting
anything other than this?) that he is a
*liar* to be *highly*
offensive and objectionable.
In solidarity, Jerry
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- Re: (OPE-L) Mino's Bible, (continued)
- Re: (OPE-L) Mino's Bible, Ernesto Screpanti Sat 28 Feb 2004, 09:25 GMT
- Re: (OPE-L) Ernesto's "Damned Lies" ?, Riccardo Bellofiore Wed 18 Feb 2004, 15:07 GMT
- Re: (OPE-L) Ernesto's "Damned Lies" ?, Phil Dunn Tue 17 Feb 2004, 03:09 GMT
- Re: (OPE-L) Ernesto's "Damned Lies" ?, Riccardo Bellofiore Tue 17 Feb 2004, 07:51 GMT
- (OPE-L) Ernesto's "Damned Lies" ?, Gerald A. Levy Tue 17 Feb 2004, 14:40 GMT
- Re: (OPE-L) Ernesto's "Damned Lies" ?, Ernesto Screpanti Wed 18 Feb 2004, 13:10 GMT
- Re: (OPE-L) Ernesto's "Damned Lies" ?, Gary Mongiovi Tue 17 Feb 2004, 18:28 GMT
- Re: (OPE-L) Ernesto's "Damned Lies" ?, Paul Zarembka Tue 17 Feb 2004, 18:40 GMT
- Re: (OPE-L) Ernesto's "Damned Lies" ?, Rakesh Bhandari Tue 17 Feb 2004, 20:35 GMT