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Cologne 28-May-2003 gerald_a_levy schrieb Tue, 27 May 2003 08:13:18 -0400: > Re Michael E's message dated Friday, May 23: > > > This presupposes that only a Marxist materialist analysis is credible. But > > is issue of Marxist materialism is an ontological issue which, to boot, > > is highly controversial. We come back to the ontological issue of the > > validity of the LTV, the foundation stone in Marx's critique of > > capitalism as a mode of (social) production and exchange. > > No, not every question comes back to 'the ontological issue of the validity > of the LTV.' The issue under discussion was the facts regarding the > current situation in Cuba. An appeal to the LTV and ontology will not help > us comprehend this current development. We have seen that there are (at > least) two different narratives for what has been happening in Cuba. To > access the relative merit of those two narratives, we have to explore the > factual underpinnings (or lack thereof) of each perspective. > > Jerry, I agree that "not every question comes back to 'the ontological issue of the validity of the LTV.' ", but if you insist that only a Marxist "materialist analysis" is credible, then you have already decided in favour of a certain ontology. Note also that Diego explicitly incorporated the LTV in his thoughts on Cuba. Michael _-_-_-_-_-_-_- artefact text and translation _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- made by art _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ http://www.webcom.com/artefact/ _-_-_-_-artefact@xxxxxxxxxx _-_ _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Dr Michael Eldred -_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
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