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Re: (OPE-L) dreams and nightmares



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At 16:05 -0400 16-05-2003, Asfilho@xxxxxxx wrote:
I agree with Hans, and disagree with Riccardo.

We do not live in an ideal world. I do not know the details of recent events
in Cuba. I honestly suspect no-one on this list does. Are we sure we even
know what we are talking about?

I wish the death penalty was not necessary, and I am not even sure that, on
this occasion, it was tactically advantageous to the regime. But I don't
think we can, or should, pass judgement as if this were a point of principle.
It should not be. There is a war out there, and Cuba might realistically be
invaded in the not too distant future. I will support whatever the Cuban
government decides to do in order to defend itself. They have been on this
struggle since long before I was born, and I am not going to deny them
support now.

Let's get real. To demand a perfect democracy at every point in time is to
rule out the possibility of revolution - to hope for a socialist transition
but only through the ballot box. This would be nice. But it's just not going
to happen. Think of Allende.

alfredo.


alfredo: I am not talking of ideal world. I am not demandig a perfect
democracy. I am not believing in socialism through the ballot box.
You are putting words in my mouth I have ever said. I am simply
saying that I do NOT support WHATEVER the Cuban government decides to
do in order to defend itslef. I do not very well speak English, but
"whatever" to me means "whatever", and it is frankly too much. THIS,
not accezpting "whatever" they do,is the way to support them. About
Allende, just a difficult point: may be his defeat has been a more
powerful inspiration to struggle than defending (i.e. destroying)
revolution with means against its end. Of course, more carefulk
information about Cuba is always welcome. But thanks for disagreeing.

r



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