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Hi Riccardo and Nicky.
To begin with, I think your claim about the
repression of homosexuals
in Cuba is out-of-date in that it fails to
comprehend the reforms that have
taken place since the early 1980s. It was
valid as a criticism in the 1960's
and 1970's, but times have changed and so has the position of the Cuban
government (both on paper and in actuality) on
homosexuality.
As for capital punishment, I think we need to
begin with a materialist
analysis rather than only an ethical
objection. That is, _why_ do we
oppose capital punishment in capitalist societies
and can that opposition
to capital punishment be generalized for all social
formations and times?
In the kitchen of my small apartment (on the
opposite side of the wall
where I am typing this message now) there is a
poster by Peg Avery
from the War Resister's League dated 1978 with the
legend "Capital
punishment means them without the
capital get the punishment."
Independently of whether you support or oppose
capital punishment
under all circumstances, surely you would
recognize that there is a
different reason in Cuba today for capital
punishment. That should be
analyzed.
As for the "repression of dissenters", I believe
that we have to ask *who*
these "dissenters" are and *what* is the
actual relation that they have to
US imperialism. As it happens, this is a
topic that has been discussed
briefly on the "Capital-and-Class" list in
the past day. Two posts
that I wrote on that subject, responding to Alan
Johnson, are attached.
In general, I agree that part of the responsibility
of Marxists, that flows
from our internationalism, is to adopt a
critical standpoint towards the
praxis of other socialists internationally. Yet, we also have a
responsibility to get our facts straight before
explaining our criticism.
And we must recognize that the US is a major player
in this event
rather than it only being a matter of "internal"
dissent and government
policy.
In solidarity, Jerry
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- To: <CAPITAL-AND-CLASS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: Re: dreams and nightmares
- From: "gerald_a_levy" <gerald_a_levy@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 07:58:35 -0400
- Cc: "michael a. lebowitz" <mlebowit@xxxxxx>
To begin with, the corrected address to send signatures is marxdream@xxxxxxxxxxx.Secondly, who is ajoh244867@xxxxxxx? I don't generally see the point inresponding to posts from anonymous authors.Thirdly, I think _your_ statement fails to recognize adequately the real threat thatis posed by the U.S. government towards Cuba. The 'dissidents' that youreferred to met with and received funding from James Casson, head of the USinterests section in Cuba. Do you support the right of the CIA to finance and plancovert actions against sovereign nations? Don't those sovereign nations have theright to arrest and punish traitors -- and what else would you call citizens ofyour own nation who receive funds from an imperialist power to subvertyour country so that it can become a better investment for foreign capital?Jerry
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- Re: dreams and nightmares, Michael Eldred Fri 16 May 2003, 16:57 GMT
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