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Re Ian's [8715]:
> I use the term 'fascist' for an organised repressive dictatorship of
the bourgeoisie with strong elements of state organised capitalism. Although I
haven't made a detailed study of Iraq, the Ba'ath party looks like a fascist
party, with an organised repression of any independent working class activity,
elements of 'national socialism, and imperial aspirations, as shown in its
agression against Kuwait. I am prepared to be surprised on this, though.
<
One could argue (although I am not going to
argue this) that _any_ capitalist state
represents "the organized repressive
dictatorship of the bourgeoisie" (see, for
example, Marx's reference to the
"dictatorship of the proletariat" in contrast to
the "dictatorship of the
bourgeoisie"). To have any real meaning, though,
fascism
must be defined in a historically specific
way so as to distinguish it from your
run-of-the-mill dictatorship under capitalism.
To begin with, fascism is a right-wing
reactionary movement. The Ba'ath Party in
Iraq is neither revolutionary nor
progressive, but neither is it -- ideologically or
in actuality -- an extreme right-wing
political movement.
Fascism is also essentially and virulently
anti-Left and counter-revolutionary. Indeed,
the fear of a socialist revolution has
been a hallmark of fascist movements. This does
not describe well the particular historical
context in which the Ba'ath Party came to
power or its
political ideology.
Fascism, for it to come to power,
must be a mass movement. The Ba'ath Party
did not come to power nor does it remain in
power through a mass movement.
Fascism came to power in advanced
capitalist and imperialist nations. Iraq is
neither.
Yes, the current Iraqi government is
nationalist and repressive, but this does not
make it fascist. I think we
also have to distinguish between nationalism in an
imperialized nation like Iraq and
nationalism in an imperialist nation.
The Iraqi government has indeed repressed independent working-class
activity,
but so have many other (non-fascist) bourgeois governments in the
world.
As for the invasion of Kuwait, one _could_
view it as an act of aggression. _Or_,
one could recognize the role of British
imperialism and large transnational oil
corporations in establishing the
artificial 'nation' of Kuwait and also recognize
that there is at least some historical
basis for believing that what is now Kuwait
is part of Iraq. I think that the
invasion of Kuwait in 1991 was not so dissimilar
to the "invasion" of the Falkland
(Malvinas) Islands by Argentina. Unlike fascist
movements which had global aspirations of
power, the military objectives
of
the Argentinean and Iraqi governments were
more limited in nature.
And, in both
Argentina and Iraq, the roots of the
conflict can be traced to the
history of
colonialism.
In conclusion, I do _NOT_ think that the
government of Saddam Hussein can
be said to be fascist. Indeed, I
think that's a rather dangerous position to take
since -- although the point of your essay
was to oppose the war -- *if* one takes
the position that there is fascism in Iraq
and *if* one takes the position that
fascism must at all costs be crushed,
*then* one would be able to argue (just
like the governments of the US and UK
argue) that their armies are "liberating"
the people of Iraq rather than invading a
nation.
We _should_ be discussing the danger
of fascism today. Yet, that danger
is most apparent in the US -- where in my
view we are seeing the beginnings
of an incipient fascist movement -- rather
than Iraq. Fascism is also more
of a danger in nations such as France,
Germany, and Russia (where there are
already significant neo-fascist political
forces) than Iraq.
In solidarity,
Jerry
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