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Micael writes "It is money which imposes (through the practice of exchange itself) a quantitative form on commodities and thus, indirectly, also on labour performed -- not the other way round: amounts of labour performed do not determine (ontically, causally) quantitative monetary prices." IMO there is a non-sequitor here since I agree with the first half but not the second half. OK it is money which constitutes commodities as values and allows them to stand in abstract quantitative relations. This is a point about the value FORM. but once this form IS established the question then arises of what determines these magnitudes in particular cases. IMO it is time of production in the first instance although this time is itself differently 'cognised' according to the complexities of the value form context.. Compare: gravity gives things weight but th magnitude of weight is a function of the given masses. Compare: we have no experience without forms of intuition but there is something out there to be intuited under these forms. Chris A 17 Bristol Road, Brighton, BN2 1AP, England
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