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Let me just say that I found John M's formulation to be extremely well put:
In this way the buyer-up in effect acquires control over the production process of the individual producers, I.E. OF THEIR MEANS OF PRODUCTION. It is he who decides the extent of output and its degree of diversification as well as establishing the division of labor among the separate producers who are under his control, according to productivity criteria which he sets and changes in demand which he follows. The buyer-up can now lower the prices of the commodities he purchases (buys up) from direct producers to a level which yields for the producer an income not higher than a worker's wage.
But let me jump ahead to Gil's post.
I'm not straight on OPE-L rules, so I shall not forward Gil's recent criticism of Robert Albritton to him. Gil, perhaps you could forward what you wrote to him and then post his reply, if he replies? Here's his email address:ralbritt@xxxxxxxx
Gil, I do think you have Albritton's argument a bit wrong:
In a nutshell, Albritton takes issue with Brenner's contention that British "agrarian capitalism" was the prime mover of capitalism, arguing the commodification of labor power is a necessary basis of the latter, and that LP was insufficiently commodified until the 2nd half of the 19th (!) century to allow commercial farming in Gr. Br. to be called "capitalist."
I think Albritton is arguing that even though early English capitalist agriculture, unlike the putting out system, relied on the basis of free wage labor (Albritton also insists on the serious qualification of this claim, which seems to have lead to Ellen Wood's concession which I quoted earlier), it does not follow that that the latter was any less a crucial form of early capitalist enterprise than English agriculture organized around the tripartite regime of landlord-tenant-wage labor. Albritton is in fact raising questions about the relation between a pure theory of capitalism in which labor power is fully commodified and the history of early capitalism. He warns against using the former to derive conclusions about the center of gravity of the latter, no?
All the best, Rakesh
- [OPE-L:7442] Re: Re: The putting-out system, (continued)
- [OPE-L:7442] Re: Re: The putting-out system, Gil Skillman Mon 22 Jul 2002, 21:56 GMT
- [OPE-L:7446] slavery and the shell of natural economy, Rakesh Bhandari Tue 23 Jul 2002, 13:23 GMT
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- [OPE-L:7435] definitely not about Ch. 5, michael a. lebowitz Sat 20 Jul 2002, 17:32 GMT
- [OPE-L:7441] Re: definitely not about Ch. 5, Gil Skillman Mon 22 Jul 2002, 21:39 GMT
- [OPE-L:7444] Re: Re: definitely not about Ch. 5, Rakesh Bhandari Mon 22 Jul 2002, 22:44 GMT
- [OPE-L:7450] Re: Re: Re: definitely not about Ch. 5, Gil Skillman Tue 23 Jul 2002, 23:20 GMT
- [OPE-L:7454] Re: Re: Re: Re: definitely not about Ch. 5, Rakesh Bhandari Wed 24 Jul 2002, 16:15 GMT
- [OPE-L:7457] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: definitely not about Ch. 5, Gil Skillman Wed 24 Jul 2002, 17:01 GMT
- [OPE-L:7459] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: definitely not about Ch. 5, Rakesh Bhandari Wed 24 Jul 2002, 18:19 GMT